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ExpressionEngine vs. WordPress: Comments

Tyme and I do a podcast and the entries for these podcasts consistently get over a 100 comments with the largest receiving over 500. The site that currently hosts the podcasts and discussions runs ExpressionEngine, but we are planning on moving the podcast to its own domain and of course I requested that we use WordPress.

The problem is we can’t think of any site that runs WordPress that receive such a large number of comments on a consistent basis (brain fart no doubt) so we aren’t sure about performance issues. Also is anyone aware if comments can be paginated (eg. every 100 comments a new page is started)?

So if you could provide some examples of WordPress and its ability to handle large comment load I would greatly appricate it. I have no doubt it can handle the load, but it’s always nice to have a little security on your side.

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  1. http://thankyoustephencolbert.org/

    55898 comments on 2795 pages and counting at a fast pace.
    is it enough for your podcast? =)

    By maxon on May 11, 2006 1:12 pm

  2. Good example.

    By Scrivs on May 11, 2006 1:37 pm

  3. Doesn’t WordPress have a module you can install which enables page-level caching? That would solve any DB-load problems, I assume.

    By Mike D. on May 11, 2006 1:38 pm

  4. Mike D. is right, there is a plugin for enabling a cache so that the page isn’t having to be parsed each time it’s called. And the cache is updated when someone posts a new comment, or when edits are made. There is also a plugin (or few) that enables pagination for the comments as well.

    As far as WP’s ability to handle comments, both Eric Meyer’s and Scoble’s blogs are using WP and neither are lacking in the comment count.

    By Steven Ametjan on May 11, 2006 2:13 pm

  5. I regularly get over 100 comments, sometimes over 200 and once over 300 - no problems so far.

    By Kev on May 11, 2006 2:18 pm

  6. I would note that the Cache Plugins offered for wordpress are lacking. I doubt WP will match up to Expression Engine at that level. Or on pagination.

    By David Krug on May 11, 2006 2:18 pm

  7. The wordpress dev blog is a good enough example. No comments, but anywhere some posts get up to 700 trackbacks. Scoble’s another good example, as is thankyoustephencolbert. there used to be a list of huge sites running on wp

    By Jesse on May 11, 2006 2:45 pm

  8. At one point my *ack MySpace related posts each accumulated roughly 350+ comments per post (4 in total). The site felt very sluggish when users would search for ‘MySpace’ and pull up those four posts. It was horrible. Ultimately, I decided to trash the comment tables for those posts in order to salvage some load time. I’m sure the traffic hits would be nothing compared to your projects but I felt I’d drop my feedback.

    I’ve seen great examples of WP surviving though.. as some others have noted, Scoble is a great site to analyze.

    By Derek Punsalan on May 11, 2006 3:53 pm

  9. All good examples, thanks everyone. Keep em coming if you got em.

    By Scrivs on May 11, 2006 4:17 pm

  10. Boooya Tyme, Booya!

    By Colin D. Devroe on May 12, 2006 12:00 am

  11. Scrivs,
    Your former question looks as though it’s been answered with a few good links already, so I’ll address the comment pagination question.

    There is a plugin which allows users to paginate their comments called Paged Comments (you can even see the plugin in action at the site).

    ~ Teli

    By Teli Adlam on May 12, 2006 4:09 am

  12. For the 9rules toolbox: http://asymptomatic.net/2006/05/02/2327/high-performance-wordpress/

    By Montoya on May 12, 2006 4:46 am

  13. Ugh, make that a link.

    By Montoya on May 12, 2006 4:47 am

  14. http://codex.wordpress.org/User:Matt/Famous_Blogs

    nuff said

    By Chuck Reynolds on May 12, 2006 2:25 pm

  15. What are the reasons you are moving to WordPress in the first place? Recently I have done the opposite. I am moving all my sites from WordPress to Expression Engine. Personally, I feel Expression Engine is a lot more flexable than WordPress. Don’t get me wrong, WordPress is a great thing but the deeper you get into it as a CMS you realize how annoying and limited it can become. EE template system is amazing, the freedom and control of the way things are presented and work is top notch, and the multi-blog membership options are essential for a quality CMS. Of course, not everyone needs a CMS, some just need a blogging tool, but even then I prefer EE over WP… and this is coming from someone who used WP exclusively for the last few years.

    By Cpawl on May 13, 2006 9:36 am

  16. Stay with EE.
    :)

    By Volkher Hofmann on May 13, 2006 12:22 pm

  17. Check out http://joss.celuch.com. This is my brother in laws website. As a joke while he was on vacation I setup an automated script to send random messages. He has a wordpress blog, and each of those has almost 2,000 comments. The server didnt choke and there were no issues.

    Hope this helps.

    Also, not a big fan of EE - or the support team behind it - so I say go with wordpress.

    By Nate K on May 18, 2006 8:59 am

  18. To Nate K: I have tried EE and I think there’s no problem with their support. The forums are brimming with people who know EE inside out. And the search function is pretty good.

    To all: That said, I have recently switched from Movable Type to Wordpress. Absolutely loved MT until 3.35 and it’s static publishing, but when you grow beyond a certain point the rebuilding of pages is just not worth it (even with “smart rebuilding” plugins). Plus, with their licensing monkey business and moving of basic useful features (such as Custom Fields) into the “pro” version is just stupid.

    WP gives me all of that with simple plugins, and now it’s mature enough. The templating is alarmingly good–I’m smitten with it. Get “Custom Write Panel” and it’s an amazing CMS tool in the hands of someone who knows his PHP.

    Just be cautious of using plugins indiscriminately (because they’re developed by people with very different skills) and you’ll be fine.

    I tinkered with some skins, some really good ones for WP (such as Hemingway and Prebuilt2) and it the largest theme collection by far, but then I started from scratch, modifying the “default” theme, and learned ways of achieving what I desired with some very static files (e.g., CSS, JS) as well as very few plugins (e.g., Recent posts are possible with WP’s own archiving tags).

    If you start with a working mockup of XHTML for your site and just want to make it dynamic with some templating and tags, WP is simply the best out there at the moment in its 2.3 incarnation. MT and EE are just too tedious with their “template groups” and whatnot. WP’s theming engine is absolutely tops.

    In short, +1 for WP.

    By Shanx on February 4, 2008 7:55 pm

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