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CSS Drive Features Kubrick

Now I know how difficult it can be to run a CSS gallery site. Sometimes you go through lags where there just isn’t any good entries while other times it’s hard to keep up with all the quality you have coming in. In the case of CSS Drive though you have to chuckle a little bit at this entry.

Anybody see what’s wrong with it?

Nothing wrong with liking a template I suppose.

Published by Scrivs on June 15, 2005 in Design • Did you like it? Subscribe! Or Submit it to Blogosphere News!

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  1. LMMFAO.

    Love how 9rules came down with the thunder!

    By Keith on June 15, 2005 1:36 pm

  2. thats unreal. I guess my move to WordPress from movabletype should be featured to, huh

    whats worse, is that my juicethoughts design IS featured on cssdrive :)(my current design, not the new one)

    By Bryan on June 15, 2005 1:38 pm

  3. I love how the review says “Very easy on the eye.” I guess that’s a new accessibility feature that I am unaware of.

    By Colin D. Devroe on June 15, 2005 1:42 pm

  4. I’m sorry; Unmatched Style has been strapped for content at times. And I may be a little bit out of touch compared to others in the web design community. But I would never feature a default template. Not that Kubrick is bad; I would feature the template and not the site if anything.

    Any respect I had for CSS Drive is now gone. Not for featuring this. But they are so out of touch that they don’t know a default template when they see it.

    By Ryan Latham on June 15, 2005 1:43 pm

  5. Ryan: Ouch. Preach.

    By Colin D. Devroe on June 15, 2005 1:45 pm

  6. Perhaps tomorrow I will list some of the entries I get hosted from blogspot.com and livejournal.com.

    By Ryan Latham on June 15, 2005 1:50 pm

  7. Hi

    By katkovski on June 15, 2005 2:46 pm

  8. That definitely deserves a post on the Vault :)

    By Jacob on June 15, 2005 2:55 pm

  9. That was posted in December 04, a few months before WP1.5 was officially released. So it’s likely that site was one of the earliest public appearances of Kubrick from a WP nightly build and the CSS Drive admin simply didn’t know better (evidently not a regular reader of Binary Bonsai). From the dates of the comments, nobody identified it until April 05, by which time there were something like 80,000 sites running WP1.5, probably half of them with the default theme. Can you say “D’oh!”

    By Craig C. on June 15, 2005 3:03 pm

  10. Maybe someone should submit a Nucleus site, too.

    My take:
    Fresh yellow and gray design. Very easy on the eye.

    By Britt on June 15, 2005 3:12 pm

  11. Thanks Craig for pointing out an important fact. I’m not sure which is worse, featuring a template or posting a blog entry about it 7 months after the fact. As Craig said, at that time, I had yet to see other sites with this design or realize it was simply a template. A couple months later, I certainly did come to the realization.

    “Any respect I had for CSS Drive is now gone. ”

    Wow that’s harsh. I’m sorry one of my selections doesn’t live up to your grand standards. But being so critical is a double edged sword. I would never say anything so unprofessional as “I’ve lost respect for your site”, just because I didn’t like one of your site selections. I’ve seen some features on all of the CSS Gallery sites I would never feature myself, but I know that’s my own opinion and in this case it is very necessary I keep it to myself. CSS Gallery sites are as much about individualism and personal taste as it is about great CSS designs. That’s what makes running one fun- it’s an outlet and expression of what I like. All of a sudden you’re saying there’s a certain standard that I need to live up to? Do all your entries live up to that “standard”? Be careful, because no matter how low you go, I can find an entry on your site that fails that too. Sorry, this is hypocrisy to the extreme, and I feel very much compelled to say exactly what you just said to me. But I know better.

    By CSS Drive on June 15, 2005 4:04 pm

  12. This is more like it!

    Whitespace is back… get it on guys!

    By Andy Hume on June 15, 2005 4:16 pm

  13. ryan, what’s wrong with a site hosted at livejournal.com and blogspot.com, as long as it’s not a template and it looks good?

    By matt on June 15, 2005 4:28 pm

  14. I don’t know Craig, I did see that the original entry was done in December, but the screen I am seeing says

    Note: Screen shot updated 04/13/2005.

    In any case, I just liked the laugh. Your site, your rules.

    By Scrivs on June 15, 2005 5:28 pm

  15. Hmmm you’re right Scrivs, now that I look back, the screenshot was updated earlier this year with the template one. My bad. I never thought featuring a template would lead to so much commotion. Lesson learned. Hehe

    By CSS Drive on June 15, 2005 5:35 pm

  16. True, the screenshot was updated right around the time it was identified as Kubrick… I’d like to see the shot that accompanied the original post, before Kubrick took over the world.

    And Mr. Drive (may I call you CSS?), perhaps you should ammend your post with a link to binarybonsai.com and wordpress.org? If your intent is to showcase and recognize good CSS design, give props where props are due.

    By Craig C. on June 15, 2005 5:49 pm

  17. Aw…. you made up already.

    I just thought the web design blogosphere had taken off again then. Oh well, back to my WCAG study.

    By Andy Hume on June 15, 2005 5:50 pm

  18. Hi Craig:
    I’ll look at possibly modifying the entry with the appropriate link to the creator of the template. But the question then becomes, should I also be posting a link to the designer behind every site I feature? I just don’t understand the huge stink over a single entry made on my site many months ago, an oversight on my part perhaps for not realizing at the time it was a template, but certainly undeserving of some of the nasty comments above.

    Lol Andy. I don’t have any problem with Scrivs. It’s nice to be talked about one way or the other, and when I realized my remark about him blogging about something 7 months old was incorrect, I apologize.

    By CSS Drive on June 15, 2005 6:13 pm

  19. Well… yes, of course it would be polite to acknowledging the designer of each site you feature. But it’s your choice. Was just making a suggestion that might dissipate some of this stink.

    By Craig C. on June 15, 2005 6:24 pm

  20. Yep Craig, and I appreciate your suggestion. :)

    By CSS Drive on June 15, 2005 6:32 pm

  21. Wow…I missed the fight because I feel asleep at work. Anyhow it’s not my grand standards I will admit many times I end up publishing stuff to UMS just because I feel visitors will get antsy and feel as I have forgotten about them (this is being solved).

    But CSS Drive has always showcased well designed and original sites. I just was baffled by the concept of posting a default template.

    I mean I have gotten so far away from creative and original web design lately. I can tell you the quickest way to return RecordSets in 5 different languages but can hardly remember how to clear a float.

    But even being out of touch I still know a default template when I see one. I would just hope that someone promoting great and original designs would have a little bit of background on them.

    And yes; I’m sure I’ve put stuff on UMS that you made Scrivs (now Jacob G.), Hector, and David say “WTF did he post that for?” I’ve found myself in the same boat. But typically sub par is better than zero.

    I wasn’t using it as a personal attack. I just felt that even though I’ve seen some crap on gallery sites (a lot of it my own) listing a template is bad. But having it acredited to someone else than the creator is ridiculous.

    By Ryan Latham on June 15, 2005 7:43 pm

  22. Hi Ryan:

    “I wasn’t using it as a personal attack.”

    Can I just say I’ve never understood the logic behind people defending an attack by saying “it wasn’t personal.”, as if that somehow makes it all right. Not sure how much more personal you can get when you say things like “Any respect I had for CSS Drive is now gone.” It sounds like my site has been offending you for years, and this was the clincher. Don’t crucify me for an oversight of the elusive CSS Gallery posting guidelines I don’t have a copy of yet. My guidelines are simple- feature what I like- and feel like at the time- nothing more, nothing less. If we all started judging what we featured as CSS sites, no site will make it as we fling dung at one another for eternety. :)

    Anyhow, I have great news. After the 9rules blog entry, I’ve received 5 death threats, 2 marriage proposals, and one person wanting to buy CSS Drive for 2 million. I’m still deciding on the marriage thing.

    By CSS Drive on June 15, 2005 8:53 pm

  23. Well I am going to leave it with nothing more to say. Very few people no my personality and my manerisims in real life so I was a fool to think that they could be detected via the text in a comment.

    And as far as CSS Drive offending me; that has yet to happen. Very few gallery sites (perhaps 2) have offended me for some reason or another; and CSS Drive is not one of them. And I guess practicing one of them to an extent makes me somewhat of a hypocrite so I will rectify this after I am done writing this comment.

    To justify the statement in question I do have to say this. I treat everyone and everything on the web as if they are a close personal friend of mine for several years. That’s what gets me into trouble I say words, phrases, and make jokes a friend wouldn’t take offense to but in this case it failed.

    By Ryan Latham on June 15, 2005 11:55 pm

  24. Bla bla bla! u guys shut up and continue posting CSS sites!

    By GaBuBu on June 16, 2005 2:32 am

  25. Hi Ryan:
    I agree it’s very easy to misinterpret someone when you can’t see the mannerism and tone behind the words. By the same token, I was pretty relaxed as well when I typed up my responses to your comment. I just enjoy debating. Anyhow, it was all fun and I enjoyed reading and responding to the comments.

    By CSS Drive on June 16, 2005 6:48 am

  26. Why doesnt somebody create a template gallery site so we can all see what great templates are available to use on our blogs? There must be hundreds of templates available for the various CMS systems and I’ve yet to find a site of as good quality as all the CSS gallery sites to showcase them in a nice easy, well presented way.

    By Guy Carberry on June 16, 2005 8:45 am

  27. That’s actually a great idea Guy. But aren’t a lot of CMS templates integrated into the CMS themselves and aren’t exactly publicly viewable/ linkable?

    Another reason I didn’t know I was featuring a Wordpress template at the time is that I was never into Wordpress at all. Saw it once, and moved on to Moveabletype and pMachine.

    By CSS Drive on June 16, 2005 5:15 pm

  28. This is all speculation of course, and certainly templates are beneficial for numerous reasons, but I’m wondering if template promotion, like what might come from a “template gallery,” would influence a culling effect on the glut of self-called front-end designers; perhaps realized after designers begin relabeling themselves due to decreasing demand for front-end services. Would we see a correlational surge of ‘information architects’, for example? Would skill sets be skewed and falsely advertised until a kind of new equilibrium is reached? (Is there even such a thing as ‘equilibrium’ in Web design? Probably not.)

    By Destry on June 17, 2005 2:03 am

  29. Seeing how ugly css drive is I don’t reall care about them posting the template as feaqtured entry. lamers!

    By dusoft on June 17, 2005 10:20 am

  30. Dusoft, I like the CSS Drive design better than yours, one of the reasons being I have a secret fear of musical notation.

    By Recipher on June 17, 2005 12:04 pm

  31. BTW, just noticed this in the logs- thanks Ryan for the resource link on Unmatchedstyle :)

    By CSS Drive on June 17, 2005 4:30 pm

  32. Having just recently abandoned Mambo in pursuit of my own website creation (and PHPNuke before that), I can say pretty confidently that there is an absolute abundance of template gallery sites for a number of CMS packages. Mambo, especially, has a terrific templating community, which was what initially drew me to their software.

    And I agree, in some respects, with a recurring notion in this commentary that template makers are a “lesser” entity than a designer who creates an entire front end for a proper CMS. That’s a pretty pointless argument. Yet, at the same time, the community making templates for any CMS are working within even MORE restrictions than the moon languages involved in custom solutions. They deserve at least that respect.

    And yeah… 7 months? This post is deprecated. Great job stumbling into shit that was poorly resolved on their site and making it news.

    And Destry, please elaborate. You’re touching on points that I would like to learn more about, but you’re not making a whole lot of sense.

    By itazura on June 19, 2005 8:54 pm

  33. Yeah, that was a bit vague. Sorry. Like I said, it’s just speculation, but there seems to be an increasing interest — or movement, if you will — to put free templates online for the masses. I can’t help but wonder if at some point (hopefully a long time from now) that two things end up coming from this:

    1) People who would otherwise pay for design services stop doing so because it’s just a free click/install away.

    …and in correlation…

    2) The increasing numbers of designers billing themselves as interface designers find it harder and harder to get work under the “interface designer” label, so start relabeling themselves, or their skill sets, to infer another niche (e.g., information architect).

    Again, just speculation, and probably a reach. This business is certainly unpredictable, if nothing else.

    By Destry on July 1, 2005 2:13 pm

  34. recipher: feel free to change the style, there are some 5 on offer, if you have noticed…

    btw: i am not presenting CSS websites, so your comment is of no value. my personal blog can look anyhow i like and not based on your opinion.

    By dusoft on July 5, 2005 7:03 am

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